In this chat, we get to meet Avey Tare, aka Dave Portner. Dave is one member of the experiment indie rock outfit Animal Collective, which has been active for over 20 years. Now, Dave is putting out a new solo record under his alias, 7s, and in this chat, he and I talk a lot about this record - what went into it, the production, the songwriting, the themes, and more. We also touch upon Animal Collective's past and present, pop music, the infamous Pullhair Rubeye project, and more. Thank you!

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